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Harvard Tells Trump to Take a Hike even as Columbia Capitulates

Lisa Senecal talks to David Pepper about Harvard taking the gloves off in its fight against Trump's bullying and what this means for universities across the nation.

Sometimes courage comes from unlikely places. After Trump tried to push Harvard around, the university hired conservative superlawyers Robert Hur and Bill Burck to lead its defense. Don’t miss Lisa Senecal’s barnburner of a conversation with author and democracy champion David Pepper about who’s standing up to Trump and who’s cowering — and why.

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